Jenny's got a good post there. The ministry isn't the only profession that has marginalized women. But in any other profession women can push themselves to leadership if they wish without it becoming a moral issue.
Without wishing to start another row here, I'd have a problem with anyone of either sex wishing to push themselves to leadership in the church.
The form of church that I'm part of here, leaders come from within the body. We don't have 'professional pastors'. Salt and light do have a bible school in the UK, and people of both sexes go through it. But it isn't a place where leaders are created - leaders are raised as they get recognised leading people. In other words, where people are clearly leading and operating under authority, then they get raised.
There have been a few people that have done the "I should be a leader because of X" thing. They tend to pass through.
I wasn't refering to pushing to leadership in the church. But it is a fact that in most professions women have to do a lot of work to get to positions of leadership. It doesn't happen unless the woman really wants it and works towards this goal, sometimes to the detriment of other things in their lives. Thats what I would call pushing. In my profession, there are only a handful of women at the top levels. I've been a dentist for over 30 years and the appearance of women in these roles - maybe the last five years.
Jenny's got a good post there. The ministry isn't the only profession that has marginalized women. But in any other profession women can push themselves to leadership if they wish without it becoming a moral issue.
ReplyDeleteyeah, I think her original post wasn't bad. It is a discussion that needs to happen.
ReplyDeleteWithout wishing to start another row here, I'd have a problem with anyone of either sex wishing to push themselves to leadership in the church.
ReplyDeleteThe form of church that I'm part of here, leaders come from within the body. We don't have 'professional pastors'. Salt and light do have a bible school in the UK, and people of both sexes go through it. But it isn't a place where leaders are created - leaders are raised as they get recognised leading people. In other words, where people are clearly leading and operating under authority, then they get raised.
There have been a few people that have done the "I should be a leader because of X" thing. They tend to pass through.
Toni
ReplyDeleteI wasn't refering to pushing to leadership in the church. But it is a fact that in most professions women have to do a lot of work to get to positions of leadership. It doesn't happen unless the woman really wants it and works towards this goal, sometimes to the detriment of other things in their lives. Thats what I would call pushing. In my profession, there are only a handful of women at the top levels. I've been a dentist for over 30 years and the appearance of women in these roles - maybe the last five years.
Sorry Linea. Think I was still burning a bit from some of the things I've been reading.
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